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If you could just gather all the stuff, Robert Heinlein's dream of a used spacecraft lot could be realized. (Read the complete story)

"Sales Pitch:
The Lunar Roving Vehicle has a mass of 463 lbs and was designed to hold a payload of an additional 1,080 lbs on the lunar surface. The frame is 10 feet long with a wheelbase of 7.5 feet. The maximum height is 3.75 feet. The frame is made of aluminum alloy 2219 tubing welded assemblies and consists of a 3 part chassis.
It has two side-by-side foldable seats made of tubular aluminum with nylon webbing and aluminum floor panels. An armrest is mounted between the seats, and each seat has adjustable footrests and a velcro seatbelt. A large mesh dish antenna is mounted on a mast on the front center of the rover. The suspension consists of a double horizontal wishbone with upper and lower torsion bars and a damper unit between the chassis and upper wishbone. Fully loaded the LRV has a ground clearance of 14 inches.
The wheels consist of a spun aluminum hub and an 32 inches diameter, 9 inch wide tire made of zinc coated woven .033 inch diameter steel strands attached to the rim and discs of formed aluminum. Titanium chevrons covers 50% of the contact area to provide traction.
Each rover was used on three traverses, one per day over the three day course of each mission. On Apollo 15 the LRV was driven a total of 17.25 miles in 3 hours 2 minutes of driving time. The longest single traverse was 7.75 miles and the maximum range from the LM was 3.1 miles. On Apollo 16 the vehicle traversed 16.5 miles in 3 hours 26 minutes of driving. The longest traverse was 7.2 miles and the LRV reached a distance of 2.8 miles from the LM. On Apollo 17 the rover went 22.3 miles in 4 hours 26 minutes total drive time.

(Lunar Rovers (3); low mileage, excellent shape, make offer)

This material was taken primarily from the excellent Wikipedia article Lunar Rover."
(Bill Christensen 5/9/2007 6:49:08 AM)

"Sci-Fi author Terry Bisson wrote a humorous short story called "The Hole in the Hole" in which the main character discovers a portal that opens onto the surface of the moon in a junkyard. He and a companion attempt to retrieve the lunar rover so they can sell it for a bundle."
(chelymorpha 5/10/2007 9:13:55 PM)
"Just read it - "The Hole in the Hole" is a riot! Find it in the story collection titled "Numbers Don't Lie.""
(Bill Christensen 5/12/2007 2:27:06 PM)
"How much is the car on the moon?"
( 5/15/2007 4:54:04 PM)
"I heard that this Lunar rower has unpaid parking tickets."
(Outsider 5/16/2007 12:07:44 AM)
"Can the batteries be replaced?"
(Jimmie 5/16/2007 2:38:36 AM)
"One area of junk left on the moon has been forgotten... old booster stages from the missions that brought the various probes and missions to the moon.... ie the Saturn S-IVB 3rd stage boosters."
(Nick Anderson 5/16/2007 4:29:35 AM)
"A similar news story is on but is incomplete. The list doesn't mention several crashed boosters AND the LEM descent stages."
(Garth 5/16/2007 6:55:57 AM)
"According to the missing NASA Moon landing footage tapes, there are current speculations that some of this equipment shouldn't even be on the Moon. "
(Chris 5/16/2007 7:20:34 AM)
"I realise that this article is tongue-in-cheek but there are a lot of errors. Here are some corrections: The Apollo 13 lunar module (both stages) burnt up in earth orbit and did not land on the moon. The Apollo 10 lunar module (both stages) and the Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17 ascent stages crashed into the moon and are not in "excellent" condition. Surveyor 3 is not in excellent condition as Pete Conrad (Apollo 12) removed parts of it including the camera. There is no mention of the various ASLEP and other experiments left by all the Apollo flights. The ESA Smart-1 crash landed in the Lacus Excellentiae region of the moon on 3rd September 2006 NOT 2003. Lunar Prospector was crash landed in the South Pole of the moon on 31st July 1999 (not 1998). Luna 17 landed on the moon 17 November 1970 to deliver Luokhod 1. Luna 18 was a sample return mission which crashed on the moon on 2nd September 1971. Luna 21 delivered Lunokhod 2 in 1973.Luna 23 was a sample return mission which crashed on the moon on 28th October 1974. Luna 24 landed on the moon on 18 August 1976 and a capsule was launched from it on 19th August 1976 containing a soil sample which landed in Siberia on 22nd August 1976. These are the errors that I spotted."
(GCD 5/16/2007 12:44:46 PM)
"i will pay $500,000 for that Lunar Rover, plz respond thx "
(alex 5/16/2007 3:42:55 PM)
"GCD - thanks so much for the info. I'm working on the updates. "Tongue-in-cheek" is always better when you've got your facts straight... BTW, the article on is basically the same as this one - they made a few editorial changes."
(Bill Christensen 5/16/2007 3:53:17 PM)
"alex - would you take half an LRV?"
(Wilson Wu 5/16/2007 3:54:15 PM)
"The Apollo 10 LM ascent stage is in heliocentric orbit around the Sun."
(Nick Anderson 5/18/2007 10:29:00 AM)
"My pleasure Bill! and good luck with the updates. Nick is right about the LM 10 ascent stage being in heliocentric orbit. In fact it is the only launched LM ascent stage that is still intact. Apollos 5, 9, 13 LM ascent stages burnt up in earth orbit. Apollo 11 was left in lunar orbit but eventually crashed into the moon while 12, 14, 15,16, 17 were deliberately crashed into the moon. "
(GCD 5/20/2007 2:55:30 PM)
"I have just found this site with details of hardware on the moon, List of artificial objects on the Moon. The total weight is an amazing 170996 Kg !"
(GCD again 5/20/2007 3:04:39 PM)
"GCD - I'm not sure whether this makes me feel better or worse - what a great list, with links to cool pix and even helpful locations, so you can go and get everything. That comparison of 170,996 kilograms sent to the Moon, versus 382 kilograms of lunar material sent back to to Earth, is stunning. I guess those Loonies really know how to trade!"
(Bill Christensen 5/20/2007 7:17:21 PM)
"Other items left behind... the Apollo crews PLLS backpacks and Apollo 17 had left sub-satellites in orbit (obviously degraded by now )."
(Nick Anderson 5/22/2007 9:22:08 AM)
"Oh yes let's not forget sports eqipment.... a makeshift six iron golf club and two golf balls... Apollo 14."
(Nick Anderson 5/22/2007 9:43:48 AM)
"Hmm... Perhaps another article called "Lunar Pro Shop"..."
(Bill Christensen 5/22/2007 7:11:55 PM)
"You dumb people this is still on da moon"
(Jacoob Radar 4/10/2008 7:03:35 AM)
"I've been working on an idea for a story in which inhabitants of the first moonbase are sent out to collect all the stuff so that it can be refurbished and reused."
(Lord Svengali 3/12/2009 1:50:52 AM)
"was there ever a real lrvwhy do we not see anything similar in use here on earth even as a dune buggy?Because they were FAKES!!!"
(nobodysaysBOO 1/18/2010 11:07:23 AM)
"Yes, of course they were real. Just because your generation doesn't accomplish anything other than sitting and playing playstation, don't think that preceding generations never accomplished real tasks - like sending men to the moon and bringing them back, arguably the greatest engineering achievement in human history."
( 1/18/2010 12:03:14 PM)

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